Reinforcement Difference Between Ide 6 and Ide 5

[onurceylan]

Hello; I recently solved a project for the first time using ide 6. However, the owner took the same project to another engineer friend, saying that he had too much money for himself. And by solving the same project in ide 5, he solved the project with about 5 to 10% less equipment. I can even say that this job was lost because of this and even the construction permit was obtained by passing through the chamber and the municipality in this way. I somehow found the project that that engineer solved with ide 5 and I had the opportunity to examine it. Although I saw that the sections are very close to each other and even that my sections are smaller in some places, I could not understand where this reinforcement difference originated. This is how I missed a job. I would be grateful if you could inform me about this issue. In the ide 6 report section, more emphasis was placed on shapes and visuality; May I know the reason for this? Good luck with...

 

[cassabotanic]

There is no serious reinforcement difference between ideCAD 5 and ideCAD 6 . To compare version 5 vs version 6. Enter the same project with 5 and have it calculated. Then open the project entered in version 5 with version 6 and solve it. There are some extra checks in version 6 that were not done in version 5. Turn these controls off at 6. You will see that the 6 version reinforcements and the 5 version reinforcements are the same.

 

[tevekkül]

I tried it before and I saw that the amount of reinforcement decreased a little in ide 6... it depends on the project I guess...

 

[zeki78]

Hello to everyone. Dear cassabotanic, you said to turn off analyzes that are not done in ide5, in ide6. How can we do this? For example, deflection control or buckling control..... Can we only check the bearing capacity without using a time interval in ide6, if we can. Thanks in advance. Take it easy everyone.

 

[Levent Özpak]

Hi, I recently solved a project for the first time using ide 6. However, the owner said that it was too expensive for his own mind and took the same project to another engineer friend. And he solved the same project at ide 5 %. He solved the project with less equipment between 5 and 10. I can even say that this is why I lost the job, and even the construction permit was obtained by passing through the room and the municipality in this way. I somehow found the project that that engineer solved with ide 5 and had the opportunity to examine it. Although I saw that it is close and even that my sections are smaller in some places, I could not understand where this reinforcement difference stemmed from. I missed something in this way. I would appreciate it if you could inform me about this subject. Also, in the ide 6 report section, more emphasis was placed on shapes and visuality; May I know the reason? We have not been informed of any situation that n is too high. In some systems, it is even possible to obtain more economical solutions due to the improvements made in version 6 (modeling of panels as shells, superstructure interactive solution, etc...). The difference in quantity resulting from solving the same project in Ver 5 may also be due to the improvements made in version 6 regarding drawings and quantities. .(For example, starting from version 6.01beta1, panel shoots are automatically drawn and included in the quantity.) If you add the Ver 5 project to the forum or send it by e-mail, we can let you know where the size differences originate. I wish you good work

 

[ideYAPI]

Our tests comparing the 5 version with the 6 version show that the difference is not serious. However, considering some modeling improvements added in version 6, we can expect the amount of reinforcement to be slightly less than version 5. These are: Superstructure-foundation interaction Modeling of panels as acceptance. Using multi-conjugated winkler spring model for raft foundations. Choosing the mounting reinforcement as single as possible in beam reinforcement selection, etc. In addition, some controls have been added to the program in version 6 compared to version 5. These; deflection calculations in beams and floors Article 3.4.3.1 controls (optional in beam parameters) Regulation size controls Minimum floor thickness controls Calculation of torsion reinforcement in beams Normal force control in beams etc. Factors that can affect the amount of reinforcement: The logic of the cover has changed. Reinforcement diameter and quantity selection algorithm in beams and columns has changed. Torsional reinforcement is discarded in beams. Suspension reinforcement and stirrups were tightened on the stud beams. However, although all these elements vary from project to project, they are not at a level to make a difference enough to be reflected in the quantity. It is the healthiest to comment on a concrete project.