Angled building model with ideCAD

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freegenc35

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Hello Everyone... It's a situation that I have encountered for the first time... Consider an existing structure, it is tilted 30-40 cm to either side due to ground settlement. A performance analysis of the current state of the building will be made. However, how can this current situation be modeled in idecad. In other words, can the structure be modeled 30-40 cm horizontally as it actually is? Is there any special situation that needs to be done about the extra structural elements while modeling? The subject is important, I would appreciate it if you are interested...
 
Hello, You stated in your message that the building is tilted to one side by 30-40 cm. In my opinion, no reinforced concrete structure and its elements can accommodate such angular distortion. There is no need for performance analysis (I think) to say that the shear and moment capacities of the columns, beams and other structural elements in the building in question have decreased considerably due to this situation and that the building has become dangerous in terms of life safety. However, if analysis is necessary, the current situation can be determined exactly and you can give displacement values to the relevant joint points for cases such as support collapse. In the meantime, you should make sure that the parameters (external loads, displacements, etc.) defined at the nodal points are included and taken into account by the program in the performance analysis. Good work.
 
I agree with Mr. Godfrey. In my opinion (actually, it is meaningless to say "according to me", but let's leave an open door again). After that, it is not correct to keep it alive with mathematical methods or to examine whether it will be kept. I think it is not possible to model this type of behavior through programs. Whatever is done to the building in question, I think that the dressing will be done with precaution. It's nothing but a self-deception by the building owners. 30-40 cm displacement is an irreversible displacement without being exposed to an earthquake. My suggestion is that you don't try to idealize it with engineering formulas. State clearly the facts that they will not like.
 
Greetings, What is the height of the building before the comment to be made for the structure by joining both friends, how much has this 30-40 cm tilting shifted the center of gravity. These are important. Of course, whether a ground survey has been made or whether there is a different seating in the building or staples, after such examination, an idea about the building is carried out. if you write the floor plan and height, then friends will comment better.
 
Thank you to all those interested in replying. Now there are some facts that require proof even if they are visible. Especially if there is law involved, it asks for documents. In this context, we, as Engineers, have to prove this and submit documents. Even technically, if the building were flat, the forces in the building elements would be displacements etc. It should be known that with the current 30 - 40 cm tilted shape of the structure, the force, displacement, etc., would be like this. As far as I can see, everyone is obsessed with 30-40 cm, not 30 -40 cm, 10-15, 15-20. My main question is, do we have the opportunity to model this idecadde or not? i think it was modeled in another program....there is also a seat welded from the ground in the structure, no stapling etc... Thank you once again for your attention....
 
Hello there; You have the chance to model the tilted version of your structure as you want by inclining the columns and beams. You can also calculate the cross-sectional effects on the structural elements that you model in their oblique form. Attached is a small model that explains the situation.
 
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