Working Project (Help-Solution-Suggestion)

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I wish you a good day. I would like your opinion and help about a project I am working with İdestatic7. Short Beam: I tried to provide a solution without increasing the rigidity (dimension) as much as possible in the places that are connected with the curtain. I applied partial rigidity for the K30 beam (4-14 layers) and the problem is solved. Before that, I was getting cutting and reinforcement shortage problem. I tried reinforcement increase and size and it didn't work. I applied the same partial rigidity in K72. (4-14) I tried the size and reinforcement. The reinforcement is insufficient. I do not want to fill the beam with reinforcement. (Between 2 Curtains) K61 (1st FLOOR) Same problem, but I couldn't reach a result with reinforcement size and partial rigidity. There is a deflection problem in the floor 57 58, the thickness is 14 in my opinion, the deflection problem is solved when 15 is made, the reinforcement problem begins. I will try to solve the problems, but I want your help about how healthy it will be. I would like to learn the accuracy of my transactions with your valuable comments. If You Examine the Project in General and Check the Analysis Settings, I Will Be Satisfied. Thank you in advance for your valuable comments.
 
Hi, K6 Beam connection is faulty on the 1st floor, change the K6 Beam joint point as in the picture. Slab deflection problems seem to be due to faulty formation of finite elements in the slab analysis. If you connect the slab edge to the node of the P24 Curtain, the problem is fixed. Since there are curtains in the system, according to the R Coefficient selection report, 10-4 alphas should be taken for X and Y directional R Floor numbers. Good work.
 
I will take the beam in accordance with the corner connection point. only the floor and beams are not causing problems, there is no problem with the flooring you show. D57 and D58 floors (between 2-14 floors are problematic). I sent the file as analyzed. You can browse the bug reports. Thank you for your answer.
 
"Aytaç":3p9rcqce" said:
I will take the beam according to the corner connection point. Only the floor and beam are not problematic, there is no problem with the flooring you have shown. D57 and D58 floors (between 2-14 floors). I sent the file in the following way. You can take a look at the error reports. Thank you for your reply.
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Although it seems irrelevant, the faulty connection you made affects all tiling results. Tile meshes are formed incorrectly. If you correct the connection I showed in the picture. D57 and D58 tiles do not have deflection problems.
 
As you said, the deflection problems were solved. I wonder why this situation occurred. What is the importance of the connection place, is it not automatically adjusted? thank you:)
 
Hello, In Version 7, you need to draw the edge of the slab using the nodal point of the panel. When connecting from the middle of the panel, the panel is divided and a joint point is formed on the panel. Connection is made from this point. As of Version 8.500, the division requirement has been removed.
 
"YasinTezel":2kue8j61" said:
Hi, in Version 7, you need to draw the slab edge using the joint point of the panel. When connecting from the middle of the panel, the panel is split and a node is formed on the panel. Connection is made from this point. The requirement for division has been removed from Version 8.500.[ /quote] Thank you, It was informative.
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1. Basement: I could not solve the elevator curtain cutting problem by increasing the size. When I connect the 1st floor k6 beam to the point you said, I can't lay the floor, the program acts as if the frame is not closed. He throws the floor together on the console above him. On the 4th floor k30, the carrier system gave a problem after adjusting the behavior coefficient.
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Could you please check. Especially when the 1st floor k6 beam is connected, the floor is not laid. I've had it a few times.
 
Hello. There are incorrect beam connections. Join the beams from column to column. Do not skip the column and merge it into the other column. This situation is more than enough on every floor. My guess is that this is why there are so many errors. Unver ÖZCAN
 
Thank you for your answer. I fixed all beams with connection faults on all floors. There was no improvement. There were 3 errors Now there are 5 errors. After the arrangement, the K30 beam started to fail at 3-4-5 floors. The plan is the same on the following floors, it should give the same problem, I couldn't find it why it doesn't. You said there are many mistakes. I see 3, do you see more?
 
Hello, when I make an account without interfering with the First Project data, it gives 43 error messages. These do not include (B) errors. same number of errors in the second corrected project I'll take a look and make a suggestion. Unver ÖZCAN
 
This is what I see. I was trying to find out why it should give the same error on other floors. Why doesn't it show up for me? I wonder if I have a big project for the demo program.
 
"Aytaç":f5sxb2dh" said:
This is what I see. It should give the same error on other floors, I was trying to find out why it doesn't. I wonder why it doesn't show up for me. I have a little big project for the demo program. It was demoed in 7.022. When opened and analyzed in 7.022, 5 error notifications are received as reinforcement insufficiency in K30 and K61 beams and shear force in P21 panel... Since the reinforcements of K30 and K61 beams are fixed, the program cannot add enough reinforcement. If you remove the reinforcement constants, missing ace Messages will be removed from there. Curtain cutting safety does not save much (about 60 tf) You can increase the curtain thickness or make changes to provide a little more shear force. There is no such thing as a problem in the demo caused by a large project. These messages are not in the normal version. you would too.
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