Waiting for your comments for the carrier system selection

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servany2

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hello, I am waiting for your comments about the load-bearing system that I have worked on in two different ways -I cannot prevent the torsion effect due to architectural reasons, at least as far as I can see, I cannot add curtains in the y direction of the structure -I do not want to throw unnecessary column curtains and turn the project into a column field -it seems difficult for me to exceed the deflection calculation in beams with a large span. I can't throw it, I can't play with its height because of the hollow block - and how true it is to get a console with a beam other than a beam.
 
Re: carrier system selection indecision Hello, Suggestion project is attached. Check the beam loads on the normal floor and roof, Support the ladder and solve it together. Unver ÖZCAN
 
Thank you, Mr. Unver, I couldn't include the ladder due to time constraints. The project will be solved, including the ladder. There is something I want to ask, I would appreciate it if you could answer, I am adding the revised version - the beams that have deflection problem in the project you have taken give a deflection problem when modeling again. There must be something I missed.
 
This is a design from me. Do not run beams on the curtains in the basement. Make the joists continuous on the floor. Especially the side beams. Also center the beams on the column by offsetting the beams. Review loads. If the voids of hollow blocks will not be filled with bricks, I think the load is too much. N. YILMAZ
 
Hello, it is not related to the topic, but I wanted to ask a question that I was wondering, what is the logic of the tension in the upper part of the foundations, unlike the beams, in the lower part?
 
"eissenhover":8c7bidc0" said:
hi, it's not related to the topic, but I wanted to ask a question that I was wondering about, what is the logic of tension in the upper part of the foundations, unlike the beams, in the lower part?
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Let me put it very simply: The support points are the columns and the pressure zone. So the span tries to bend. (You already know this) The loads on the beam act from top to bottom. Basically, we're talking about a ground thrust, the ground resistance. You have to think of the resistance of the ground as a distributed load acting on the beam as in the beam. .This distributed load acts upwards from the bottom of the beam, not on the beam (here our beam is the foundation).
 
"eissenhover":3u5ubtv2" said:
hi, it's not relevant to the topic, but I wanted to ask a question that I was wondering about, what is the logic of tension in the upper part of the foundations, unlike the beams, in the lower part?
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Under normal conditions, the beams will shrink. like a pile of heavy clothes placed on top of it)
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If it's permanent, it's on the top (take a pen and put it on the seat and just press down on both ends, you'll see the pen tilt upwards)
 
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