Version 7- Version 8 Analysis Problem

H.YILDIZ

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Hello, I got an error that the system cannot be resolved from a project I drew with V8 in the attached project. The nodal point where the basement floor S2 column is. There is a problem with the trim edge that I created the balcony, I do not get that error when I delete it. Where am I going wrong? Can you help me? I saved it as 7 versions for trial purposes and analyzed in version 7, there was no problem in the analysis, it just gives B error in S2 column. v7 link
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There was one more thing I forgot to add. When I save it as the old version, since the divide by intersections command is not in the new version, there are unsupported beam errors where the stud beam is, and accordingly, problems occur at the floor boundary.
 
"H.YILDIZ":2ifrlt9o" said:
Hi there, I got an error that the system cannot be resolved from a project I drew with V8 in the attached project. The junction point where the S2 Column is located in the basement. There is a problem with the slab edge that I created the balcony, I do not get that error when I delete it. Where am I doing wrong? Can you help me.. I saved it as a test version 7 and analyzed it in version 7. There was no problem in the analysis, it just gives error B in column S2. v7 link
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The system cannot be resolved warning in ver 8.5 version is due to D12 slab. In ver 8.5 version of the project: 1-You can solve according to fully rigid diaphragm acceptance. 2-Limits of D12 slab as in the attached example, tile edge up to S3 column and can be defined by opening a space with the tile gap command
"H.YILDIZ":2ifrl t9o" said:
There was one more thing I forgot to add. When I save it as the old version, the divide by intersections command is not in the new version, so there are unsupported beam errors where the stud beam is, and accordingly problems at the slab boundary.
With the Ver 8.5 version, improvements were made in the data entry logic to allow users to make fewer mistakes. For this reason, it is expected that the tile contours will be corrupted when the project files are saved as old versions. In the next update, it is planned to give a warning to the user about this issue in the program. Transferring as old version will be possible between intermediate versions from 8.xx versions to 8.xx versions. Thank you for your report. Good work
 
Greetings In Ideçelik version 8, 2 reinforcements are drawn very close to the corner reinforcement at the trapezoidal ends of the diameter columns that are trimmed according to the trapezoid of the building. In other words, 3 reinforcements are drawn in one corner of the column. Any fix for this? Elevator curtains, which are entered as panels in rigid basement floors, are not detailed outside when we receive column application. In other words, the * always detail outside in the application * option does not work on elevator curtains. For these two reasons, I have to buy the colon apps in version 7. Also, I have a request, can I add the option to detail the perimeter panels outside in the rigid basement floors? In the past, curtain reinforcement was not provided in column application. If it is optional now, it will be a great comfort. Good work, thank you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
In the ide static 7 version, floors at different levels; It was very easy and error-free to select the tile edge (the tile edge not the tile line). In version 8, it seems impossible to define tiles by selecting tile edges. When trying to go around all the edges of the tile to be placed, it goes to different places and fails Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
"AYDIN":2yhf8uz8" said:
Greetings, in İdeçelik version 8, diameter trimmed according to the trapezoidal shape of the building draws 2 reinforcements at the trapezoidal ends of the columns very close to the corner reinforcement. That is, 3 reinforcements are drawn in one corner of the column. Is there a fix for this issue. Is there a panel in rigid basement floors? Elevator curtains, which are entered as column applications, are not detailed outside when we receive column application. That is, the * always detail outside in the application * option does not work in elevator curtains. For these two reasons, I have to buy column applications in version 7. I would also like to request, can I add the option to detail the perimeter panels outside in rigid basement floors? In the past, curtain reinforcement was not provided in column application.Now if it is optional, it will be a great comfort. Good work, thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"AYDIN":2yhf8uz8" said:
In the static 7 version, tiling at different levels; It was very easy and error-free to select the tile edge (the tile edge not the tile line). In version 8, it seems impossible to define tiles by selecting tile edges. While trying to go around all the edges of the tile to be laid, it goes to different places and fails. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hello, Could you add sample projects regarding the problems you mentioned and the request? Good work
 
"Levent Özpak":1rhyvcxh" said:
"AYDIN":1rhyvcxh" said:
Greetings In İdeçelik version 8, 2 reinforcements are drawn very close to the corner reinforcement at the trapezoidal ends of the diameter columns that are trimmed according to the trapezoid of the building. In other words, 3 reinforcements are drawn in one corner of the column. Any fix for this? Elevator curtains, which are entered as panels in rigid basement floors, are not detailed outside when we receive column application. In other words, the * always detail outside in the application * option does not work on elevator curtains. For these two reasons, I have to buy the colon apps in version 7. Also, I have a request, can I add the option to detail the perimeter panels outside in the rigid basement floors? In the past, curtain reinforcement was not provided in column application. If it is optional now, it will be a great comfort. Thanks for the good work. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"AYDIN":1rhyvcxh" said:
Ide, in the static 7 version, to define tiles at different levels by selecting the tile edge (not the tile edge tile line) It was very easy and error free. It seems impossible to define tiles by selecting tile edges in version 8. When trying to go around all the edges of the tile to be placed, it fails to go to different places Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hello, Could you add sample projects related to the problems you mentioned and optional?
 
It is difficult to create tiles by selecting contours in the 8 version of overlapping tiles at different levels. It was easily done in version 7.
 
"AYDIN":1bpe4u7h" said:
"Levent Özpak":1bpe4u7h" said:
"AYDIN":1bpe4u7h" said:
Greetings In Idecelik version 8, there are 2 reinforcement bars very close to the corner reinforcement on the diameter columns that are trimmed according to the trapezoid of the building. In other words, 3 pieces of reinforcement are drawn in one corner of the column. Is a correction planned for this issue.
It has been included in our status notes regarding the reinforcement drawings of polygon columns, has been corrected and will be sent to you in future updates.
Also rigid Elevator curtains, which are entered as panels in basement floors, are not detailed outside when we take column applications. That is, the * always detail outside in the application * option does not work in elevator curtains. For these two reasons, I have to purchase column applications in version 7.
In curtain properties, "Detail block" in the Drawing tab You can enable the curtain details to be given outside by ticking the "draw" option.
 
"AYDIN":3sus0ozg" said:
Creating tiles by selecting contours is also problematic in version 8 for overlapping tiles at different levels.
I think you are talking about the D18 slab in the basement floor... Related tile "Create a tile by selecting a contour." It can be created with the " command. Only the reinforcement axis needs to be deleted and recreated. This is noted in our notes. The reinforcement axis can be drawn again with the "Draw Reinforced Concrete Calculation Axis" command after the reinforcement axis is changed and the layer of the D16 slab on the lower level is closed. Good work.
 
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