three meters console? happens

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teroysa

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Due to the architectural design, we have consoles close to 3 meters. Is this not possible in practice? It doesn't make much sense to me as an engineer. but our structure has 3 floors. what else can i do? Thanks in advance to those who help.
 
Re: 3 METERS CONSOLE? OK!! MY SUGGESTIONS if Mr. Tero. Carrier System Selection and Idecad
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Read the text. A good example of how the carrier system CANNOT be RESOLVED. Rebuild the mold plan. What I see important. --The combination of the curtains in the middle and the beams is not suitable. (A 25/50-30/60 cm beam is inserted into the 20 cm curtain does not provide full fixation.) --The beams are not continuous, --do you need to drill a hole in the curtain? -- You used too many stuck beams, -- If you pass the console (for 3 m span) with such a low beam, then the time-dependent deflection will be too much, it can be done by taking precautions, but yours is not suitable, I wouldn't recommend it unless you have to, -- the console do not change the beam size in half of the beam, -- correct the column (B) errors, -- Put a seismic barrier in both directions, -- process the stairs as well and dissolve it as a semi-rigid diaphragm -- some of the concretes C25, some of them C35 why? MAKE THE MOLD PLAN AND LOOK AGAIN. Take it easy Unver ÖZCAN
 
Re: 3 METERS CONSOLE? OK!! First of all, thank you very much for taking the time to review the project, Mr. Unver Ozcan. -- The mold plan was created according to the architecture. I went to izmir imo today, I will make corrections and create it again, but I will only add curtains.. I wish there were no studs, but it is mandatory -- the curtains in the middle were chosen as 20 cm. Since architecture is also rape.. -- I will add the ladder as a load -- I am ashamed that C25 remained on the concrete class beams. I swear :) -- I did not leave the beam long on the console so that it would be shorter and stronger. I am waiting for your valuable contributions and suggestions for the project that I will upload again, thank you.
 
Re: 3 METERS CONSOLE? OK!! Dear Ünver, thank you for your comments on my behalf. We also use your information from time to time. You try to wrap up all kinds of projects as best you can. God bless your efforts. good luck... Dear teroysa, Highly ductile designed systems are sensitive and require very good engineering. they're not kidding. In such systems, the carrier system is quite problematic in terms of frame behavior, intensify the curtains in both directions, reduce the R coefficient and focus on rigid design. While doing this, carefully include your curtains in the system with horizontal carriers (beam-flooring). contribute to the framework. Don't leave your curtains empty. Good work.. KEMAL YALVAÇ
 
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