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Turkish We are currently drawing a static project of a building. Bathroom and WC were low floor. I modeled normally. then i started to set the low floor from the ground floor. I separated the bathroom and WC with the floor edge and pulled it 20 cm down. but both tiles failed. I took a screenshot of the project and the section and added it to the file. Waiting for your opinions. (I only started to lay low on the ground floor, but when I failed, I did not apply to other floors)
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The project is attached. Low Flooring is also showing error.
- Thread starter gencideci
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Re: The project is attached. There is an error in the low floor, please help. If you throw a 25/50 beam in the hall part, the beam will pass through the middle of the hall, which will spoil the view badly, since your system is a classic flooring, you can torn it or you can turn the beam, which can be easily solved in your system.
batuhann28522
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have a nice day. Since I'm just starting to learn, I was thinking how can I do it. D03 slab will be low slab, but I don't know how. Can you help? Any chance of you fixing it? Thank you so much in advance
Levent Özpak
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Hello, You will enter a negative value in the elevation part of the properties of the D03 slab (Since the slab height is 15 cm and the beam height is 35 cm, you can give the elevation value as -20 cm.)"batuhann28522":33pr3v24" said:good day. I was just starting to learn so I was thinking how can I do it. D03 slab will be made low slab but I don't know how to do it. Can you help. Any chance to fix it and post it. Many thanks in advance
Levent Özpak
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Additional information: The foundation model you created is wrong ... In version 7, beamless raft foundation system must be created with slab edges."Levent Özpak":3a3ubwve" said:Hello, you will enter a negative value in the jeans part of the properties of the D03 tile. (Since the slab height is 15 cm and the beam height is 35 cm, you can give the elevation value as -20 cm.)"batuhann28522":3a3ubwve" said:good day. Since I'm just starting to learn, I was thinking how can I do it. D03 slab will be low slab, but I don't know how. Can you help? Any chance of you fixing it? Many thanks in advance
batuhann28522
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"Levent Özpak":30cwp8bt" said:Thanks for your answers. Should I draw the slab edge again for the raft foundation, since the circumference is with a strip foundation.Additional information: The foundation model you created is wrong. In version 7, the beamless raft foundation system must be created with slab edges.
Levent Özpak
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The foundation system you created in version 7 is definitely wrong in terms of program data entry. In this way, the foundation design sits on the raft slab. The effect of the columns is not taken into account on the raft. In the raft foundation without beams, the borders of the raft slab should be formed with the slab edge, continuous foundation should not be used. In the rafter raft foundation system, all columns and curtains should be connected to each other with continuous foundations, and raft slabs should be placed in the spaces formed in between."batuhann28522":24o2uqs5" said:Thank you for your answers. Should I draw the slab edge again for the raft foundation since it is surrounded by strip foundation.
batuhann28522
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Now how do I turn the columns with a strip foundation, and put a raft foundation in the space in between. Is this wrong, I don't understand?"Levent Özpak":3u51epzw" said:The foundation system you created in version 7 is definitely wrong in terms of program data entry. In this way, the effect of columns sitting on the raft slab in the foundation design is not taken into account on the raft. On the raft-free raft foundation, the raft slab borders should be formed with the slab edge, continuous foundation should not be used In the rafter raft foundation system, all columns and curtains should be connected to each other with continuous foundations, and raft slabs should be placed in the cells formed in between.
Levent Özpak
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In the previous model you added, no foundation was entered under all columns and curtains. In this model, a continuous foundation is entered under all columns and panels. You can apply this model. (I recommend drawing a continuous basis between S6-S7, S05-P01 and p01-P02.) Notes; - Define continuous foundations from node to node under panels PP1 and P02. In version -7, no superstructure interactive solution is foreseen in the rafter raft foundation system. If the floor group is C or D, then it would be appropriate to design the foundation system as a beamless raft in terms of program and regulation compatibility, since Tdy 2007 requires a superstructure interactive solution.[/flash]"batuhann28522":2eqz6q2e" said:Now how do I turn the columns with a strip foundation, and lay a raft foundation in the space in between. I don't understand is it wrong like this?"Levent Özpak":2eqz6q2e" said:The basic system you created in version 7 is definitely wrong in terms of program data entry. In this way, the effect of columns sitting on the raft slab is not taken into account in the foundation design. On raft-free raft foundation, raft slab borders should be formed with slab edge, continuous foundation should not be used. In the rafter raft foundation system, all columns and curtains should be connected to each other with continuous foundations, and a raft slab should be placed in the spaces formed in between.
batuhann28522
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"Levent Özpak":vx8sn709" said:[flash=]In the previous model you added, no foundation was entered under all columns and curtains. You can apply this model (I recommend drawing a continuous basis between S6-S7, S05-P01 and p01-P02.) Notes: - Take PP1 and P02 panels Define continuous foundations from node to nodal point. In version -7, no superstructure interactive solution is foreseen in the rafter raft foundation system. If the floor group is C or D, since Tdy 2007 requires a superstructure interactive solution, it would be appropriate to design the foundation system as a beamless raft in terms of program and regulation compliance. So I hope there was no inconvenience. Now I have something stuck in my head and I have drawn it for you as an example in the appendix. In such a case, will the beam I have drawn sit on the S01 beam?"batuhann28522":vx8sn709" said:] so how do I turn the columns with a strip foundation and put a raft foundation in the gap between them. I don't understand if it's wrong like this?"Levent Özpak":vx8sn709" said:The basic system you created in version 7 is definitely wrong in terms of program data entry. In the foundation design, the effect of the columns sitting on the raft slab is not taken into account on the raft. The borders of the raft slab should be formed with the edge of the slab on the raft foundation, and a continuous foundation should not be used. In the rafter raft foundation system, all columns and curtains should be connected to each other with continuous foundations, and a raft slab should be placed in the interstices.
Levent Özpak
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Yes it is... You can check it from the 3D frame analysis model and reports."batuhann28522":2cqkf8rp" said:thank you very much, I'm really obsessed with the details. I use the forum very actively so I hope there was no discomfort. Now I have something on my mind and I have drawn it as an example in the attachment. Will the beam I have drawn sit on the S01 beam in such a case.