Relative Floor Offset and 4/5R

[ebasakin]

We would like to update the project that I have solved and licensed within the scope of TDY2007, TDY 2018. I came across some things. When I opened the project file that I prepared with 1-Ide7 and made the necessary arrangements with Ide10, it took about 33 minutes to analyze. When I model and analyze the same project from scratch with V10, it takes 6 minutes. Is it normal to drop that much? 2- Relative floor drift value is high. Although I changed some columns to screens, I could not reduce these values. What would you recommend on this? 3- Do you think it makes sense to add curtains in order not to apply 4/5R at the same time, both for the relative floor application and for the R coefficient?

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[ebasakin]

4- After selecting a point from the map in the analysis wizard, there is a difference between the values I get from afad online and the values that come when I press the offline button. Which one should we trust? Online Offline Ss 1.425 1.419 S1 0.408 0.371 Sds 1.425 1.419 Sd1 0.772 0.715 PGA 0.595 0.593 PGV 39.083 35.639 5- Do we need to change the values marked with * in the same window of the wizard? What exactly is the connection between the Online or Offline values and the * marked values?

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[Medeniyetmuhendisi]

4- After selecting a point from the map in the analysis wizard, there is a difference between the values I get online from afad and the values I get when I press the offline button. Which one should we respect. Online Offline Sd 1.425 1.419 Q1 0.408 0.371 Sds 1.425 1.419 Sd1 0.772 0.715 PGA 0.595 0.593 PGV 39.083 35.639 5- Do we need to change the * marked values in the same window of the wizard? What is the connection between the Online or Offline values and the * marked values?

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I also saw the difference, I did it according to the values on the afadin site, the idecad values are different.

 

[HakanŞahin]

4- There is a difference between the values I get from afad online after selecting a point from the map in the analysis wizard and the values that come when I press the offline button. Which one should we respect. Online Offline Ss 1.425 1.419 S1 0.408 0.371 Sds 1.425 1.419 Sd1 0.772 0.715 PGA 0.595 0.593 PGV 39.083 35.639 5- Do we need to intervene in the values marked with * in the same window of the wizard? What is the connection between Online or Offline values and the values marked with *?

Spectrum parameters obtained in offline option are exactly the same as AFAD This is not the case, the reason is that the mapping technique made in the software in coordinate-based work and the technique used by AFAD are not exactly the same, it is normal to see this situation since AFAD does not share information. occurs less and the element You can observe that it does not affect the winding results.

 

[HakanŞahin]

We want to update the project that I have solved and licensed within the scope of TDY2007, TDY 2018. I came across some things. 1- When I opened the project file I prepared with İde7 with İde10 and made the necessary adjustments, it took about 33 minutes when I analyzed the same project from scratch. When I model and analyze with V10, it takes 6 minutes.Is it normal to drop this much?

Is it possible that semi-rigid solution is marked in one and unmarked in the other? If you add your projects, we can look at it.

2- Relative floor offset value is high. Although I changed some columns to screens, I could not reduce these values. What would you recommend on this? 3- Do you think it makes sense to add curtains in order not to apply 4/5R at the same time, both for the relative floor application and for the R coefficient?

For systems other than A12, A13 and A32, it is left to user control to apply Article 4.3.2.4. If you want to tick the option and provide the ratio not to apply the 4/5R, yes it makes sense.

 

[ebasakin]

2- Relative floor drift value is high. Although I changed some columns to screens, I could not reduce these values. What would you recommend on this? 3- Do you think it makes sense to add curtains in order not to apply 4/5R at the same time, both for the relative floor application and for the R coefficient? [/quote] For systems other than A12, A13 and A32, it is left to user control to apply Article 4.3.2.4. If you want to tick the option and provide the ratio not to apply the 4/5R, yes it makes sense. 1-Because I deleted the file, I can't share it right now. 2- I think the regulation clearly points to the 4/5R rule for all pitched systems. So I think it is wrong to use that option. However, the Relative translation does not provide all columns even though I made 40*240 screens. I could never get over it. What would you recommend for relative displacement Hello,[/quote]

 

[HakanŞahin]

Hello, In your project, the coordinate and spectrum coefficients were entered in the TBDY 2018 wizard by first selecting DD1 ground motion. The wizard has been registered. Then DD2 was re-entered for ground motion and the wizard was registered again. In 10.06 the wizard won't need to be edited twice like this. Attached is your project where the relative floor drift problem is fixed. Good work

 

[ebasakin]

The final version of my project is attached. Although I add curtains and revise the loads, the relative translation does not improve. Beams that did not fail after the last analysis started to fail

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[HakanŞahin]

the final version of my project is attached. Even though I add curtains and revise the loads, the relative translation still does not improve.

I added a project in my message above and wrote the process. Have you seen my message? You can continue.

 

[ebasakin]

Thank you, Mr. Hakan.