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Mirza

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Hello, A few questions about the model in the picture... 1. It is not possible to define 2 columns at the same node in version 7. Is it possible to define such a model in V8? 2. If such data entry is not possible in V8; It is correct to enter element 1 with "model as shell" option disabled panel object (see it as a bar) and enter element 2 as column and skew it. Is there an approach? Does the program recognize element 1 as a column in the system where data is entered in this way? (it doesn't matter if it appears under the column heading in the reports) would a theoretically correct entry be made? If this approach is wrong, why? good work, best regards...
 
Hello, in 7 and 8 versions, drawing two columns to the same node is prevented. If the two columns shown in the picture are connected to the raft foundation in the model, you can model a column by drawing 1 cm beyond the joint point of the other column. If you need to make this model in the mezzanine, the connection of the columns with the lower floor column should be checked, the column can be modeled as a bar element by adjusting the support conditions and using a rigid link between the column nodal points. If we can see other parts of your model, we can provide more detailed information.
 
"If the two columns in the picture are connected to the raft foundation in the model, you can model a column by drawing it 1 cm beyond the joint point of the other column." I think you meant modeling one column 1 cm away from the other, rather than the joint point, because the second column falls within the dimensions of the first column. it cannot be connected to any place...(see picture 1). We would appreciate it if you could share your views on defining the model with the panel object... In the ide steel module; Steel elements can be defined to reinforced concrete nodes, and I think that connecting reinforced concrete elements with the same logic will expand the design range of the program... The model to be designed is attached.
 
Hello, your suggestions are very valuable to us. Taking the program to the next level is always our priority. You can be sure that we will consider and evaluate your report. Thank you for your attention.
 
Hello, I made an approximate modeling according to the image you sent. In order to define the columns connecting to the foundation and intersecting, you need to draw the inclined column 1-2 cm away. The slanted column was drawn elsewhere in the plan, then moved into place. There is no problem with the supports in the analysis model. All elements are modeled as columns. The model was created automatically by the program. I did not make any adjustments such as support conditions or rigid connection. Here, the two intersecting columns are basically combined and modeled as two independent rod elements, ignoring the variable cross-section situation at the intersections. If you want to model it as a wall, column-beam junction safety checks are not made on the walls. Stapling checks are not made. Screen min pursanage is different with columns. You need to edit the equipment. Curtain drawings are different. You need to edit in the column application and details. eg. Instead of body reinforcement, you need to draw closed stirrups.
 
Hello Mr. Yasin, Since I haven't switched to V8 yet, I couldn't examine the model you added, but the purpose has come to me. I designed the model by moving the column, as you said, there is no problem. The result can be reached by making the necessary interventions with 2d objects for the variable section region. Thanks for the solution suggestion. Mr. Ismail, we have no doubt that you take into account the opinions of all users, whether they are in the forum or not, it can be easily seen from the development processes of the program, thank you for your interest. good work, best regards...
 
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