Çağatay Bey, when we first read article 4.3.2.4, this condition was only applied in curtained systems (high ductile: A12, A13 or limited: A32). This is how I understood it when I first read it. I even wrote a description on the image"ottomancagatay":gw0y6pg9" said:
Yes, it's very cruel. We talk about this situation with the teachers. The regulation also stated clearly so that you can buy the curtains by combining them."MaFiAMaX":2380dspr" said:Ismail Bey, I am aware that by defining the group on the core shears in the regulation, the internal force is calculated at a single point, but if that's the case, the building Let's just assume that there is only one "H" shape and the core in the center. In this case too, item 4.3.2.4a will not be provided because there is only one screen. If you look at it that way, the 4R/5 multiplier will often come into play. It's a bit cruel. ..
Mr. Basri Hello, we keep modeling with high ductility level outside and only ductility. If we take a look at the conditions of limited and mixed systems No curtain ductility level limited systems, if both the frame and the threaded flooring are "curtain-free" DTS 1 and It can't be done in DTS 2 (4.3.4.3) As for the conditions under which it is allowed to perform Gear and Plaque flooring according to limited and mixed ductility level in Curtain Wall systems. If we want to model toothed flooring, DTS 1 and DTS 2 are allowed in mixed system and we need to meet the condition Mdev>=0.75Mo. Otherwise, the system is not accepted as a mixed system and the regulation requirement is not met. I see this as the reason why "hollow floor" is only mentioned in A23 and A24. (I understood this from the term "no pitch" in 4.3.4.3. I mean, if it doesn't contain pitch, you can't do it in DTS 1-2, but if you can switch to the mixed system with pitch, that is, if there is a serious pitch that meets the condition of Mdev>=0.75Mo, you can do it according to A23 and A24) DTS1 and In DTS2, a platter system with Curtains can be made. If Mdev>=0.75Mo, we can choose mixed or limited ductility level (A21-A22-A31-A32), but if Mdev<0.75Mo, we see the item (4.3.4.7). and the system necessarily enters the A31. (R=4 D=2.5 and BYS >= 7 condition is required) (that is, we use A31 conditions even though the system is curtained) We are faced with a regulation with frequent transitions between items, and therefore confusion is very normal."2m project":6sjdh9mr" said:
Mr. İsmail Hello, I think it is an appropriate item. Although A1 irregularity has no sanction in the regulation, we all know the negative effects of torsion. The reason for putting the item is both to prevent the elevator and stair curtains from eating the bread "so to speak" (it used to increase alfaS, now Mdev will increase it greatly) and (although these curtains are not always in the middle of the plan, they can sometimes be stuck to the right and left). and seriously pulling the center of rigidity towards themselves and away from the center of mass) to prevent torsional irregularity that may occur due to these masses. I find it to be a well thought out item"Ismail Hakki Besler":3sf8jid1" said:Yes, very cruel. We talk about this with the teachers. The regulation also clearly states that you can combine the curtain arms and buy it."MaFiAMaX":3sf8jid1" said:Ismail Bey, In the regulation, there is a single group definition in core shears. I realize that at some point you have internal force calculated, but if it does, let's assume there is only one "H" shape in the building and the core in the center. In this case, as there is only one curtain, article 4.3.2.4a will not be provided. If you look at it this way most of the time the 4R/5 multiplier will come into play. It's a little cruel. That's why I said...
M Hello Mr. irza, in 4.3.2.4 he would not talk about "all" curtained structures, and if he did, he would use the expression "all" as you said. The sole purpose of this article, whether columns and curtains are used together or completely curtained structures - is to prevent the curtains from being homogeneously distributed in the building and from gathering only in one area. (in short, not to leave the elevator and stairwell with curtains and say that you have solved the curtained structure) You also stated that this item will not be used in mixed systems, which is a wrong interpretation and is used in every building that contains curtains. Clause 4.3.2.4 must be applied at each ductility level that satisfies the following two conditions. 1) the building will be dts 1 or dts 2 2) it will have curtains"Mirza":lwejf84e" said:
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