Hoistway identification

bymhndis

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Good day, I had some questions -Is it wrong to define the elevator shaft as in the project? -There is no curtain in only one place due to the parking lot entrance. I got the upper rigid basement floor number -1; -Do I need to take 2? -When I define a floor for the engine room, I get a warning about the wrong floor level. In general, if there are any mistakes, I would appreciate if you tell them, good work Hakan YILDIZ Static Attachment:
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Mr. bymhndis MY SUGGESTIONS: 1- You can make the elevator perimeter and other columns/curtains as I have given in the formwork plan, the elevator shaft modeling is correct, the floor edge should be 2 cm between the curtains 2- Remove the S5 column 3- The upper rigid floor number is correct 4- If you build a machine room on the upper floor it would be good 5- Live loads may decrease on the 3rd floor ceiling (attic) 6- the edges of the stairs that I marked on the formwork plan will be unsupported 7- Are the wall loads the same everywhere? 8- give a live load to the flat beams 9- you can get the live load of .2 t/m2 in full overhangs (without balconies) Take it easy Ünver ÖZCAN
 
Dear Unver; If we consider the suggestion of giving live load to the flat beams that you mentioned in the 8th article, I wonder how much should be done. The loads given to the floors are 200 or 350 or 500 kg/m2 per m2. These are usually loads far above the practical application. In addition, these live loads are multiplied by the coefficient of 1.6. In addition, concrete is divided into 1.5, iron 1.15 safety coefficients. :?:
 
Mr ofmorbel Think about it; Suppose a flat beam is 1.5 m wide. We will have given 1.5*.5=.75 t/m linear moving load on the beam less. This would be a rather high underload. In my opinion, whether the beam width is small or large, if there is a live load, it should be taken on the beam. To stay safe. Good luck with. Unver ÖZCAN
 
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Mr bymhndis MY SUGGESTIONS: 1- You can make the elevator perimeter and other columns/curtains as I have given in the formwork plan, the elevator shaft modeling is correct, the floor edge should be 2 cm apart from the curtains 2- Lift the S5 column 3- Upper rigid the floor number is correct 4- you'd better build the engine room on the upper floor 5- the live loads on the 3rd floor ceiling may decrease (attic) 6- the stair edges that I marked on the formwork plan will be unsupported 7- are the wall loads the same everywhere? 9- You can get the live load of .2 t/m2 in full overhangs (without balconies) Take it easy Ünver ÖZCAN
Thank you Mr. Ünver for your suggestions 1- I have uploaded the entire architecture, if you can look at the attic, there is a transition from the landing to the engine room, I can't make the curtain in a U shape. We are still fighting with the owner of the building for the curtain on the side :) , if the slab edge is 2 cm, I get a curtain cutting safety error I made 5 cm 2-The difference for the column/curtain of the elevator section I could not come up with a suitable solution 4-There is a machine room, but the ceiling is not reinforced concrete, I will lay the platform +1.05 m above the 3rd floor, but I am getting an incorrect floor level warning 5-I reduced the loads 6-I fixed it as you marked 7-Some of the beams were different, I corrected the wall thickness of 13 I bought 8-0.2 ton/m2 live load I added 9-Because console protrusions do not give confidence, I bought 0.5 t/m2 architectural project
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