Elevator shaft drawing

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actombo

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hello first of all. According to the sample elevator shaft project on your site, I first opened a slab gap in my own project, after passing with the slab edge, I defined a new slab. I gave the curtain and the new slab at -150 elevation. When I analyzed it, it gives an insufficient error of basic section, which is normally 60 cm. I tried the foundation up to 100 cm. . It saved a 100 cm section, but this time it gave a negative ground safety error. I couldn't figure out exactly what the problem was. Also, some designers don't do this. They show the well in the drawing. It's basically opening a gap, giving jeans. They don't do anything, or rather they don't see it as necessary. How accurate is this? Since my project is big, I could not upload it directly from the link below. Thank you in advance for your attention.
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"actombo":2uemdyab" said:
hi firstly. According to the sample elevator shaft project on your site, I first opened a slab gap in my own project, after going through the slab edge, I defined a new slab. I gave the curtain and the new slab at -150 elevation. When I analyzed it, normally 60 cm. The sufficient basic section gives an insufficient error. I tried the foundation for 100 cm. The 100 cm section saved, but this time it gave a negative ground safety error. I couldn't figure out what exactly is the problem. Also, some designers do not do this. They show a well in the drawing. they don't do anything, or rather they don't see it necessary. How accurate is this? Since my project is big, I couldn't upload it directly here. Thanks in advance for your attention.
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Even if no space is defined in your project, additional reinforcements in the 2 axis direction are missing due to the 16-rebar limitation. ace looks You wrote that 60 cm raft flooring is sufficient, but it does not seem sufficient.
 
It is enough before opening the elevator shaft. But when I enter the lower level of the curtain and floor for the shaft, it only saves 100 cm. Is it normal to have such a difference? It saves 100 cm, this time it gives the error of insufficient ground safety. There are those who do not define this elevator shaft in the project, they just show it in the drawing. I didn't want to do it that way, I wanted to take it into account, but these problems came out. I couldn't solve it either :/
 
"actombo":gej7coin" said:
is enough before opening the elevator shaft. But when I enter the curtain and floor bottom level for the well, it only saves 100 cm. Is it normal to have such a difference?
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As I wrote in the previous message, the elevator in the project you added too (When you delete the space, define a single raft and make the floor 60 cm and 16 reinforcements are not enough.) Or add the project without missing aces.
 
For the drawing of the well, if we open a width of -1.5m, wouldn't it be okay if we just lower the curtains and put a raft foundation under it?
 
"batuhann28522":3km9zkme" said:
for drawing the well, if we open a width of -1.5m, can't we just lower the curtains and lay a raft foundation under it?
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open a space as big as the elevator shaft in the raft and analyze it. No. You don't need to put jeans on the curtain, you don't need to lay the floor. You put reinforcement up to the raft, you add the height of the concrete up to the raft, and you show it in detail in the drawing. At least that's what I'm doing now.
 
"actombo":3chbgn58" said:
"batuhann28522":3chbgn58" said:
for drawing the well, if we open a floor of -1.5m width, wouldn't it be ok to just lower the curtains and put a raft foundation under it?
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the space on the raft is the same as the elevator shaft open it and analyze it. If it saves the account with the space you have opened, there is no problem. You do not need to enter jeans on the curtain, lay the floor. You put reinforcement up to the raft, you add the height of the concrete to the raft, you show it in detail in the drawing. At least that's what I do now. I opened a space in the raft, saved it, then I lowered the bottom of the curtains to -1.5m elevation, then I put a raft tile in that gap and lowered it to -1.5m, but this time the raft tile I drew in that gap started to give a floor safety error, do you think it would be a problem?
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"batuhann28522":g0o7d1f0" said:
"actombo":g0o7d1f0" said:
"batuhann28522":g0o7d1f0" said:
for the well drawing, wouldn't we just lower the curtains and put a raft foundation under it if we open a floor of -1.5m?
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Open a space as much as the elevator shaft in the raft and analyze it. If the space you opened saves the account, there is no problem. You do not need to enter jeans on the curtain, you do not need to lay floors. You put reinforcement on the raft, you add the concrete height up to the raft, you show it in detail in the drawing. At least now I I'm doing that.
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thanks. I opened a space on the raft, it saved, then I lowered the bottom of the curtains to -1.5m, then I put a raft in that gap and lowered it to -1.5m, but this time the raft tile I drew in that gap started to give a floor safety error, do you think it would be a problem?
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I had the same problem so I do it like this, most of the developers do the same. I don't think there will be a problem
 
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"NYILMAZ":1dy9k2a5" said:
There was an information sharing on the link below. I also wrote something.
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I did it like this, as I said, the elevator main curtains are sitting on the foundation in the well and it gives an error. Is there a chance to ignore the error? If you leave the section blank and then make small curtains on the other sides, would it be okay if I throw curtains 1.5m high from the elevator shaft to the main foundation?
 
"batuhann28522":3tp3hn2a" said:
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elevator main curtains as I said so it sits on the foundation in the well and gives an error. Do I have a chance to ignore the error? Or, if you put the main curtains on the main foundation and leave only the middle part empty, then if I make small curtains on the other sides, would it be okay if I throw curtains 1.5m high from the elevator shaft to the main foundation?
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Hello there; Make the calculation only by creating a space on the raft. In the drawing, give the wall and foundation details that are thick enough to provide sufficient rigidity around and under the elevator pit (this is sometimes and usually the raft foundation thickness). I am sharing a simple elevator pit detail in the attachment, it will work for you. Best regards.
 
"2m project":sbzo6qb6" said:
Hello, do the calculation only by creating a gap in the raft. In the drawing, give the wall and foundation details that are thick enough to provide sufficient rigidity around and under the elevator pit (this is sometimes and usually the raft foundation thickness). Attached is a simple elevator I'm sharing the detail of the pit, it will do your job. Sincerely.
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