Curtain to curtain beam problem

Re: curtain to curtain beam problem I added a cantilever beam to the end and connected it to that beam and it was solved
 
Re: curtain to curtain beam problem
"bartayd":dg2h8d0u" said:
I cannot define beams between two curtains, what could be the reason. Thank you.
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"bartayd":dg2h8d0u" said:
to the tip I added a cantilever beam, I connected it with dirt and solved
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Hello, There should be no need to add beams to the end of the curtain, etc. If you add the project, we will help.
 
Re: curtain to curtain beam problem It would be useful to add your project. No matter how much you describe it. It is necessary to see, otherwise I have never encountered a problem like you said.
 
Re: curtain to curtain beam problem let me explain there are two curtains perpendicular to each other, when I extend it from the beam at the beginning of the long curtain to the other curtain, the beam does not form. If I do it from the end of the curtain, it works, but if the width of the beam is 1 meter, I have to extend it from the beginning of the curtain to the other curtain.
 
Re: curtain to curtain beam problem
"bartayd":10515eg7" said:
let me explain there are two curtains perpendicular to each other when I extend it from the beam at the beginning of the long curtain to the other curtain, the beam does not form. If it is 1 meter, I need to extend it from the beginning of the curtain to the other curtain.
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There is no problem with this. As I have shown in the attached picture, you need to draw from 2 to 3. According to TDY, the longitudinal reinforcements of the beam are not up to the beam at the other end of the curtain, but up to lb. will be extended.
 
Hello, You have to do the analysis model as Mr. Hakan said. There is no problem in terms of regulations or technical aspects. However, when a beam that hangs from the floor and is wider than the curtain wall is manufactured with an overlap length of lb, it will seem like an error in the application, so I recommend that you manually revise the formwork plan and extend the beam's longitudinal reinforcements to the end if necessary.
 
If what you want is as in the picture, it is not very meaningful. The problem here is that you get the feeling that the slanted beam is not fully pressed against the curtain. You are not wrong, it is not a correct design. It does not comply with the regulations. If it bothers you, then I think the right thing to do is to put a column on the curtain. Otherwise, you can extend it with 2D drawing, as MaFiAMaX says. If you have to cross a beam (like I did?!), you can lower the elevation of the curtain by the height of the beam and enter the beam. In this way, maybe you will have peace of mind :) But let me tell you again, it does not comply with the regulations.
 
"NYILMAZ":9npgvxxu" said:
It doesn't make much sense if what you want is as in the picture. The problem here is that you get the feeling that the slanted beam does not press the curtain completely. You are not wrong, it is not a correct design anyway. It does not comply with the regulations. If it bothers you, then then I think the right thing is to put a column at the beginning of the curtain. Otherwise, you can extend it with a 2d drawing, as MaFiAMaX says. If you have to cross beams (like I did?!), you can lower the elevation of the curtain by the height of the beam and enter the beam. In this way, maybe you will have peace of mind :) It does not fit.
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Greetings. No need to make a beam from axis to axis to put beams on the curtain. It is seen in the details that the reinforcement is given enough clamping length. There is no need to play with jeans and put a console beam for this. Sent via iPhone using Tapatalk
 
"AYDIN":2tvzcih8" said:
Greetings. There is no need to make a beam from axis to axis to put beams on the curtain. It is seen in the details that the reinforcement is given enough clamping length. There is no need to play with jeans and put a console beam for this.
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Dear AYDIN, When you read the beginning of the article, you and Hakan will see the sentences in the way you said in our comments on the subject. And I even think that I explained in my own language that it is not correct and meaningless. Moreover, I state that what is planned to be done does not comply with the regulation. Afterwards, I explained how to do it with the program, if they want to do it. Otherwise, I do not find what is done correctly and offer a solution. The main point to be emphasized here is not that the reinforcement passes into the curtain as much as its clamping length, but that there is not enough support with the beam, despite a very large curtain wall. Therefore, the curtain effectively (as well as the beam) The issue is that it does not contribute enough to the stem. I think the attached picture explains everything in the best way. With love.....
 
In fact, this is why the regulation limited the beam width to the column width + beam height. We can give a maximum beam width of 55 cm to a curtain of 25 on the floor with 30 cm hollow floor. In fact, at 50 cm, at least half of the reinforcements enter the curtain up to the clamping length. Sent via iPhone using Tapatalk
 
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