converting a column drawn element to a screen

[izmirlimuhendis]

For example, can we directly convert a column element drawn as 30/210 to a curtain element? Or do we have to delete it and draw it as a curtain element?

 

[abaci09]

If the aspect ratio is 7 and the program already calculates it as a panel. I know.

 

[izmirlimuhendis]

The difference in modeling it as a column or a pier is the load carrying systems are changing. Acting like a shell on the curtain, the load is transmitted from multiple points, while on the column there is a single point of load transmission. This has a negative impact on the foundations.

 

[levent]

Hello, The column is modeled as a bar element and the curtain as a shell element, so in case of a transformation, the connection points of the beams stuck in the relevant column in the model need to be changed. As far as I can see, ide does not yet do such an operation. There is no such feature in the Convert menu either. When the column element exceeds the 1/7 ratio, it is designed as a curtain, but since the curtain is modeled as a single rod in static and dynamic analysis, I do not think it will give realistic results as a shell element. Good work.

 

[HakanŞahin]

For example, can we convert a column element drawn as 30/210 directly to a curtain element? Or should we delete it and draw it as a curtain element?

The element entered with the column object is a rod element. By curtain you mean curtain If it is reinforcement conditions, the program automatically looks at the 1/7 ratio and automatically applies TDY panel conditions. It is possible to model the element entered with the panel object as both a bar and a shell. If you want to model the element drawn as a column as a shell, you need to delete it and re-enter it.

aspect ratio is 7 and the program is already calculating it as a panel. I know.

That's right...

the difference in modeling as column or cladding is changing load carrying systems. It acts like a shell on the screen and load transmission is from multiple points, while in the column, load transmission is from one point This has a negative effect on the foundations.

What you wrote is correct, but the option to spread the foundation point for the bar element is also available in the Analysis Settings dialog. Let's note this as well. (Analysis settings/Foundation-Floor/Rate foundation superstructure connection method)

Hi, Column is modeled as a rod element and curtain is as a shell element, so in case of a transformation, the connection points of the beams stuck to the relevant column in the model need to be changed. As far as I can see, ide does not yet do such an operation. There is no such feature in the Transform menu.

It is possible to do it by deleting and re-entering.

The column element is designed as a curtain when it exceeds 1/7 ratio, but I don't think it will give realistic results as a shell element since the curtain is modeled as a single rod in static and dynamic analysis. Good work.

True, but modeling the element as a bar/shell does not make a significant difference mathematically if the curtains have a large aspect ratio and there are no door/window openings (for example, for elements such as 25/175, 30/210).