Column construction on segmented beams and beams

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teknikisler

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Can partial beams be made like the K1 and K2 Beams in the above project? Let's say, when it is necessary to define a column for the attic on the last floor on the K5 beam, should the K5 beam be defined in parts? Should the beams be given the same name in beams added end-to-end? When the same name is given, the geometry control does not receive a message in the form of objects with the same name?
 
"teknikisler":2irba68x" said:
Can a sectional beam be made like the K1 and K2 Beams in the above project.
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I couldn't understand your question.
When it is necessary to define a column for the attic floor on the last floor, let's say K5 beam, use the K5 beam Should it be defined in parts, should the beams be given the same name in beams added end-to-end? When the same name is given, does not a message appear in the form of objects with the same name in the geometry control?
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In case the column fits on the beam (B3 irregularity) The beam on which the column sits is entered in two parts, A joint point must be created at the point where the column is seated.The name of the beam parts must be the same.In a divided beam, the object with the same name does not warn in the geometry control.Also, the object message with the same name in the geometry control expresses a warning.
 
I couldn't explain my problem fully. I want to define a closed frame system like in the picture. In this case, do I have to draw the K1 beam like 2 beams end to end and give them the same name? Defining such a broken beam is statically objectionable.
 
Hello there; What you have done is not preferred by you. If you want to create a healthy frame system, you should connect the columns with beams. If you have to make such a system, you cannot accept a rigid diaphragm. Since the program will not draw beam drawings continuously in beams connected with such fractures (with angle difference of more than 30 degrees), giving the same name to the beams will not make any sense and will cause confusion in the beam detail drawings. From the picture you have attached, it is understood that your project is a hollow block, if so, you do not need to choose such a frame system. It would be more appropriate and logical to connect your columns to each other with beams and to define floor protrusions with cantilever ribs. Best regards.
 
Thank you for your suggestions and warnings. I want to ask one more thing about the subject. When we install console hollow blocks, it is necessary to create the console end with the slab edge command. But in this case, I think it would be appropriate to fix this manually, since the program will not automatically put rib teeth on the slab end. Is it true?
 
"teknikisler":r2a2j4km" said:
Thank you for your suggestions and warnings. I would like to ask one more thing about the subject. When we make a console hollow block tiling, I guess it is necessary to create the console end with the tile edge command. I think it would be appropriate to fix this manually, since the tooth will not be knocked out. Is it true?
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If the only console without ribbed slab continuity is a rib, a beam should be drawn at the end. In other cases, the slab edge can be used, as well as the beam. the floor should be formed with the floor edge and the drawings should be intervened in the mold plan.
 
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