Beam floors running in two directions

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Sydylmz

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1-I defined the 3rd calculation axis due to the gap in the beamed floor running in two directions, but the 3rd calculation axis I defined was used in the TS500 thickness control. While the slab thickness was insufficient when I defined 2 account axles, when I defined the 3rd account axle, the thickness control was made by taking into account the length of this account axis and the condition was met. What do I need to pay attention to when using the axis of calculation for the reinforcement design, what do I miss, and I get the result as if TS500 does not meet the condition in Equation 11.1. 2- There is no clear information about the continuous edge used in TS500 equation 11.1 or I could not find it. According to the information I have obtained, he says that if one edge is seated on a beam or curtain and it is the common edge of the adjacent slab, or if the slab edge is seated on a curtain or a very rigid beam, it is appropriate to accept this edge as permanent. İdecad accepts the slab edges on the curtains as permanent edges. Is there a clause that I can find in the regulation, or on what basis did you always accept the edge that fits on the curtain, and if you say that it is at the discretion of the engineer to accept the slab edge that rests on a very rigid beam, how can I control the stiffness of this beam using the program.
 
"Sydylmz":y9392tok" said:
1-I defined the 3rd calculation axis due to the gap in the beamed slab running in two directions, but the 3rd calculation axis I defined was used in the TS500 thickness control. The thickness control was made by taking into account the length of the calculation axis and the condition was met.What should I pay attention to when using the calculation axis for reinforcement design, what do I miss, and I get the result as if the TS500 did not meet the condition in Equation 11.1
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Hello, Can you add a project file? [ quote="Sydylmz":y9392tok"]2- There is no clear information about the continuous edge used in TS500 equation 11.1 or I could not find it. According to the information I have obtained, he says that if one edge is seated on a beam or curtain and it is the common edge of the adjacent slab, or if the slab edge is seated on a curtain or a very rigid beam, it is appropriate to accept this edge as permanent. İdecad accepts the slab edges on the curtains as permanent edges. Is there a clause that I can find in the regulation, or on what basis did you always accept the edge that fits on the curtain, and if you say that it is at the discretion of the engineer to accept the slab edge that rests on a very rigid beam, how can I control the stiffness of this beam using the program.[/quote] semi-rigid and fully rigid solutions are solved by the finite element method. The finite element result is obtained according to what the mathematical model is in the satatically dissolving of the slab. If the slab fits on the curtain, the finite element mesh is formed so that the curtain finite element node points coincide with the plate finite element node points. Since the wall slab bracing is fixed (retained) and the support moment is generated, this edge is considered continuous in slab thickness control. There is no possibility to interfere with the edge continuities. Good work
 
I have uploaded the example version of the situation I want to talk about in my 1st question as an add-on.
 
Hello again, In the example you added, you can select the reinforcement axes in order with the "Reinforced Concrete Calculation Axis Edit" command, and set the "Clear clearance value for Thickness Control" to 525 cm. and set the operation type to "double short". In this case, it will give a warning about the slab thickness. (There may be a slight difference in hmin. value due to the slab spacing.) The evaluation of thickness control in slabs, the default reinforcement axes in rectangular slabs, the determination of "clear opening value in thickness control" by defining one reinforcement axes in the X and Y directions from appropriate places in slabs with irregular geometry, and depending on the engineering initiative. I suggest you do it properly. The situation in your project has been conveyed to the R&D team for review. Good work
 
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