About the dilatation joint

[celikus]

In the 57-meter-long project with a floor area of 766 square meters, the ground floor and basement floors of 2 blocks are interconnected. I tried to show the building view without scale in the appendix. Do I need to use the dilation joint? Or can I connect the shop columns in the middle with the side columns of the building? We see the structures built in this way, how healthy it is. I hope I was able to explain. Thank you in advance.

 

[NYILMAZ]

I think it is beneficial to design a separate project due to both the building length and the building height differences. You can also do discrete in terms of fundamentals. You can also think that it will be more economical in this way.

 

[celikus]

I think it would be beneficial to design it separately due to the differences in both the length of the building and the height of the building. You can also make it separate in terms of foundations. You may think that it will be more economical in this way. I'm thinking of doing the basics separately. Thanks for your answer. Do I need to model the structures in the same file while modeling in the program, or is there an option such as modeling in different files and interacting the structure?

 

[NYILMAZ]

There is no problem in terms of program structure. You can do both. If you intend to separate the whole, including the foundations, it is easier to model separately and solve it as a separate project. If you are going to do the basics whole, maybe data entry can be considered together. (If you want, you can solve the structure separately and give the loads of the other building with the take the basic effects command). There are difficulties with naming here. The difficulty is what I call: The program gives a separate name for each different rigid diaphragm. In this case, especially in the 2nd, 3rd basements or higher floors, the naming becomes longer and it becomes difficult to understand (especially for masters). To give an example. There are 3 sections and each rigid diaphragm section is called A, B, C. For example, the naming of Bblok 2. basement elements will be as follows: Beams: KB2B117, KB2B118... Columns: SB2B117, SB2B118... Slabs: DB2B117, DB2B118... I recommend modeling them separately for reasons such as naming, layout design, etc.

 

[celikus]

There is no problem in terms of program structure. You can do both. If you intend to separate them from the whole, including the fundamentals, it is easier to model them separately and solve them as a separate project. If you are going to do the basics as a whole, maybe data entry can be considered together. ( If you want, you can solve the structure separately and get the basic effects[/b][/u] command and you can give the loads of the other building) When you separate it from the dilatated areas and solve it in a single file, naturally more than one rigid diaphragm will occur.There are difficulties with naming here. The difficulty is as I said; the program gives a different name for each different rigid diaphragm. In this case, especially in the 2nd, 3rd basements or higher floors, the naming becomes longer and it is difficult to understand (especially for the masters). To give an example. There are 3 sections and each Let the names of the rigid diaphragm sections be A, B, C. For example, in the basement elements of Bblock 2, the nomenclature would be: Beams: KB2B117, KB2B118... Columns: SB2B117, SB2B118... Slabs: DB2B117, DB2B118... I recommend modeling them separately for reasons such as naming, layout design, etc.

Dear Yılmaz; Thank you very much for your clear and detailed explanation. Good work.